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| == Transcript ==
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| Disclaimer: This is not an official record of the session but provided only for convenience. The following transcript is automatically generated by the zoom recording function. Timestamps were removed, else the text is presented in it’s original format, as provided by the zoom system (e.g. including any spelling mistakes). The accuracy of the transcript is not guaranteed.
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: welcome!<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Welcome everyone<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in Vilnius.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Welcome to this Nri assembly, which is a tradition, meanwhile, that we gather as much as possible<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the national European itfs within the framework of Eurodic, and it's heartwarmingly to see that the room is already<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: full, not full, but at least there are quite a number of people who found their way to this session. Thank you very much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: it's the can I ask for the presentation on on the screen, please?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Not the presentation. It's actually just the website that I would like to show.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: It's still<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: a fact that<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: a very big number of national and regional itfs are existing within the European continent.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Meanwhile there are also other continents like Africa, where really quite a number of N-r-is existing. But I think Europe was one of the 1st who, right after the global Igf was established, starting to establish national initiatives as well. And we have here marked on our Eurodig website, whom they are<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: not. Every Nri is active. Every year some nris are pausing, some are not active anymore, but there are also still new Nris that are emerging. And this is one of the topics that we would like to discuss today.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Then we would also like to discuss one of the challenges that every nri, as far as I talk to them has identified, which is how to best engage the National government, how to convince them to take an active role, how to really convince them, to listen to the outcomes of a multi-stakeholder process.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: This is the second guiding question, and then we would also like to have a view on the global governance processes that are going on. Just to mention visis process or Gdc. Where many nris have also contributed<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: to this entire process to the conduct of the session. I'm not super happy that we are here in an auditorium, but since we are at an old university, you have this kind of theatre style, but I would like to encourage you to see this actually rather as a roundtable.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: We will have Louisa, who has a microphone that she can throw into the rows because we realised it's really difficult to get in and out to this rose. So I guess this microphone will help us a lot. But of course we also have the 2 open mics that you can take the floor, and I encourage everyone to take the floor at any time. As soon as I see someone standing at this microphone or waving his hand and want to have the catch box.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I will. Would be happy to give the floor to you, because also I have to save my voice a bit. I'm having a little bit of a throat issue, so I need my voice. For the next 3 days. I really would like to limit my own speech.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and then we also have Joao as the remote participation. Moderator Joao has 2 lights here on the table. Whenever there is an intervention<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: from online our panelists. And I'm myself, we will get notified so that either the person online or can take the floor, and we can display them here on our video one as well, or<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: they can also forward a question that Joao is then kindly taking forward to the room.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So without further ado, I'm very happy. That also, Carol Roach, the Mark chair.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: agreed to address this audience.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: She said there might be a chance that she is online at that time. But since it's very early or actually midnight in her time zone, she presented, or she sent a video message which I would like to ask our technical team to play. Now and then we enter right into the discussion. So Carol Roach, on the screen, please<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: distinguished participants, colleagues, ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to provide remarks at the Nri Assembly of the European dialogue on Internet Governance. I am Carol Roach from the Cabinet office of the Bahamas and the chair of the UN Internet Governance Forum multi-stakeholder Advisory Group<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: before my appointment as a chair. I've been active in the Igf for years.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And as someone coming from a small island development state.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I am also a strong advocate for digital transformation, for economic and social development.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Digital technologies offer great potential to address the most relentless challenges.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Technology is here to stay, and we must look at it as an asset. That is an integral part of our daily routines. No matter where a person stands socially or economically.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: The Igf is an ecosystem with more than 170 organic and bottom up national and regional Igf initiatives. This means that there is an Igf for nearly every country and region in the world that brings together diverse stakeholders addressing digital policies issues at the local levels.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: especially from a Sids perspective. I can tell you that. And Nri's are true digital ecosystems that drive sustainable development<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: over the years. They brought experts from all stakeholder groups who support policy makers in making informed decisions.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: The establishment of Nri's was also elevated voices at local levels that would otherwise be kept unheard.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: For example, we noticed a considerable increase in participants from Sids at the Global Forum<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: who present outcomes or debate on issues. Emerging from their Nri discussions.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: With that I warmly invite Nri's take active participant participation in the upcoming 19th Igf.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Taking place this year from the 15th to 19th of December, in Rihad, kingdom of Saudi Arabia.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: with the overarching theme, building our multi-stakeholder digital future.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and the aim to further advance inclusion in the digital age<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: take part in best practice exchanges and policy development and contribute to the shaping of the riot key messages.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I wish you fruitful discussions. Thank you very much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you, Carol, and in case you are listening to us, you are most welcome. Without further ado I would enter into the 1st topic, which is the establishment of new national and regional Igfs. And we have actually 2 good examples sitting here on the stage.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: One is Natalia. Natalia is a really good example for the sustainability of the use program that we are doing here. We have quite a number of eustic participants sitting here in the auditorium.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Natalia was a fellow last year, and she realised that in her country in Czech Republic, actually there was no Nri existing so far. So immediately after Eurodig she took the initiative and founded one. And now she's here, and Czechitf is just about to emerge. So, Natalia, I would like to ask you to share your experiences, and also invite you to use that opportunity here to get in an exchange with the established or with the long existing ones.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in order to ask the questions that are at the moment bothering you where you might want to get answers from over to you, Natalia. Thank you so much for the nice words, it's indit true. I joined as a youth digger, and I was here also with my colleague, Selma Kima, and one evening we were just joking around that. Oh, it's such a shame that we don't have.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And Czech Republic, and someone was like, well, you should found one. We're like, well, we're just girls. We should probably not do that. But eventually, as we were thinking about this, we realised that if we really want a change, and if we really want something to happen in Czech Republic, where discussions surrounding Igf are actually not a big topic, and people usually don't care very much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And it's an ongoing challenge to really talk to government and tell them that this is seriously very important to have such discussions. We realize that if we don't do this, then probably no one else will.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So at the end of last year we actually decided to to start the initiative, and we until this day did one webinar on the celebration of girls in ICT. In collaboration also with Kenyan initiative, that is, educating women and girls in Tech. This one was very, very nice and inspiring also to cross the borders between Czech Republic and Europe per se, with African region as well.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And right now we're slowly preparing for our own 1st national event it should happen in September, and something that we have. And we're trying, maybe to start with more educational way to tell not only the governmental sector, but also the civil society that hey, we are here and listen to us. And maybe it's important to be involved in<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the global discussions is something that we call the Igf Chekia Academy, which is focusing on educating people, educating kids as well in high schools, but also in elementary schools. At the very late stage of the elementary school. So kids aged 14 to 15 years old about how the Internet is working. It means that we are currently doing some workshops. We're preparing<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: curriculums for them to make them understand that also, having multi stakeholder discussions can be very challenging. But it is very needed, because we all have different values, different priorities, but also challenges that we're facing. So just to maybe conclude at this moment, I am part of the early carrier fellowship at Internet Society and I joined with the project of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Igf Chia Academy. So also, with the help of the community from from Internet society, we're trying to really boost the workshops we are providing in Czech Republic, and I just hope to see more of such educative initiatives also in under in their eyes, because it seems to be working, and there's nothing wrong to start bottom up if you really want a change in your country.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you, Natalia, and as a second example, at least in Europe. I would like to invite daikon daikon is from. You have to exchange. The microphone is from Ireland. Remembering right your policy. Senior staff at the top. The national top level domain. Right?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Yes. Hi! So. My name is Declan. I'm a policy officer with the.ie. Domain registry. So the country code top level domain. I'm also<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: suppose the Coordinator. Now for the Ireland Igff.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: It is in a very preliminary stages. So it's it's nice to hear<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: about an initiative more advanced along their stages. But it's in very much still in early planning stages.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Right now, we do have a group of people that would want to be the organizing team. It was very much an easy sell. We have kind of a similar story where we just kind of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: at dot E realized that we don't have an nri in Ireland. But it was somewhat surprising to us because Ireland has a very robust community of Internet stakeholders.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So I asked senior management if I could set out, you know, organizing one or taking on that initiative, and they were very supportive. And then we've always had a very good relationship with our Government department, the Department of Environment and Communications. We have<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: very good relationships with them. So I also threw the idea out to them, and they were also very supportive, and then just reaching out to very well known figures in the Internet community. In Ireland everyone was very supportive. So this was very reassuring that he was able to get momentum, and there was a lot of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: buy-in, I suppose, or at least interest. So where we are now is. We were able to meet last month in May, and we were able to discuss sort of a high, level approach of what we would want the Ireland Igf to take. So we are planning for an inaugural event<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: early next year, as well as sort of a launcher Kickoff event later on this year.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: yeah, we're in the process of formalizing a terms of reference for the organizing team as well as laying out sort of like that. Governments framework for how the organizing team would operate. And then, I think, once it's a little more formalized and endorsed, and we can start<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: getting into the real event, planning and logistics. But yeah, that is, that's where we are at right now. So<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: thank you very much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And of course we wish you all the best for your initiatives, but I would like to ask you, do you have any particular concerns, questions, challenges that you are at the moment dealing with, that you would like to bring into this round where others, maybe from the established ones, can give good advice or share best practice.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: If anyone has a very good advice on how to get money. I would be very happy for that one, because this seems to be the biggest ongoing challenge. Finding sources and people we can rely on to really make a good event. We're actually right now, still deciding whether our 1st event should be fully online. Also for the sake of bringing more people in, not to let them fly to Prague, or wherever in Czech Republic.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: But then, if we make it in person on site.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: then there's going to be many expenses we have to cover, and to really make the event count, we need good sponsors we can rely on. So this is a challenge. If you have any dips, I would be very happy to know how you did it. Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and I see there is already a hand raised from the audience. So, Louisa, I would ask to catch, or Nigel, since you are speaking later on. Anyway, maybe you make it to the stage.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: or whatever you prefer, you prefer the microphone.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Yes, you have to speak into the top of the blue box.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Wow!<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Hello! Hello! Sorry! Yes, good good afternoon. Sorry. Good morning. I'm Nigel Hickson from the department of Innovation, Science and Technology in the in the Uk. And it's always a delight to be at Eurodig, and especially in this lovely city of Vilnus.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: No, I just wanted to very briefly respond. It's fantastic that we're having new, Nris. It's always great to hear. So you know, just 2 very brief points. 1st of all, Declan, in terms of Ireland. If you need any assistance on locating various people, we've got obviously very good working relationships in Ireland. We have a Uk Igf. By the way, on your map.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I didn't see the Uk with a flag. Is that because after we got turfed out of the European. Oh, no, we left. No, this is honestly missing. True. Oh, maybe it because it was<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: silent for a while. It was taken out and not established real.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I'm I'm shocked. We may have to change that definitely. I'll have to go home early. No, so we have an active Uk igf, and I could put you in touch, Declan, with the folks in London, and I'm sure we might be able to help you in in various ways. But it's a fantastic initiative. And in answer to your question on funding, yeah, I mean, funding is, I think, a perennial problem<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in the Uk, we're lucky. We have a sponsor in our.uk registry, I know. In Ireland you might also have approached those folks. Usually the<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the country Code registry is quite generous in these areas, but there is also funding from the Igfs. This is the Internet Governance Forum Supporters Association, and I've got some leaflets which I'll<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: try and remember to bring tomorrow and give out. The Igfsa gives grants every year to well, tens and tens of national, regional and youth initiatives. So that is one way of getting some funding. Thanks.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you, Nigel.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: There was a hand raised in the row.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Oh, how's it back?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: This is a question out of curiosity. So the European Commission provided small funds for smaller initiatives like yours, so called, serve to all European countries. In the Czech Republic. It would be located at the office of the Government of Czech Republic section for European affairs in Prague.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and I was just wondering to also understand if these projects are actually viable and actually functioning for issues like you, which I applaud you. If you had any contact with European funding, if this is going or not going well. The application is ending in September.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you for the question. I was not deciding or even questioning this specific one, but I reached out to several members of various ministries we have, and I was asking them What are our options? And they did not provide any specific recommendations. So I'm just wondering if maybe if this would be a good fit, I would be worried, or maybe surprised that they don't even know that<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: would be the option, but I don't know. There might be also some barecratical barriers that I'm just not aware of. Also, we've been around for just a few months now, so that might be also another way, that we should also really make ourself around this whole thing and figure out the best options what to do. But also, we have an Itu focal point, the Internet telecommunication, focal point at the Ministry of Industry and Trade.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and we already have a few people that are supporting us. But it's more like individual people showing their sympathies. So we really need to work more on the opportunities we have. But thank you so much for bringing this up. There's also a lot of homework for me as well every day at the search where we can find some possibilities. So thank you for asking.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: There's another handraise in the front row, Jacques Biglinger.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: If you are brave, you could also throw the thing it's made for throwing it across the room. So<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: my name is Jacques Beglinger. I'm Co. Chair of the Swiss Igf, and just on finances. Well, Switzerland didn't get any money from the EU. Naturally, since being outside. But Isoc has also a program<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: where you may apply. It's not much, and it's an absolute, horrible process until you get money out of it, but at least well, every cent counts. But you may start there.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you so much. That sounds lovely.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Anyone else who would. Yeah, please.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And for<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Hello! My name is Anastasia Apatick, and I'm from Ukraine. I also lived 3 months in Prague in Czech Republic.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and I work in a mine safety area, and I really understand how it's<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: hard times in my country. And it's a really hard situation with fundraising about like<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: digital topics in different countries. In my country. We educate, maybe more than 1.5 million people, basic digital security skills. And we also like engage Yotham into different online and offline events. We also like build online platform<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: for educating people by basic digital security skills in cybergate. And we also fund raise money with participants like patreons, we launch some kind of patrons. And we also start<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: fundraising campaign with our partners, because, like sometimes, we can apply for different grants with partners from different countries like maybe this year we<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: talk with organizations, nonprofit organizations, also in different European countries. And I hope that we can build something bigger or translate our materials or create offline events. Because I understand, it's really important nowadays create offline events for cooperation, for<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: discussing new challenges, for showing what we are doing online. Because sometimes I see, like, okay, we can share our platform, our education with different countries. Just please translate our materials because we record very nice video simulator games like, just translate it because creating it really cost so much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: It's 1 point. And next point is also communication with business association like it, communities. Sometimes they have, like<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: charity foundations, or like charity departments which can help with contacts, with speakers, sometimes with locations, because you would talk about how to find a place for offline event.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Usually, if business have some like place for forums, they can share with you this location, and also like, if you need any expert in Ukraine, if I can help you, or let's cooperate. So I'm very open for a partnership.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you so much. That's fantastic. And also the initiative sounds brilliant, so good luck to you, too, and also like on this note, I just want to highlight that. Also, I'm very careful when it comes to those partners as well, if they want to push their agenda, or maybe the ideology, because I can imagine that once they give you especially consider it a big amount of money, then they might expect something unpack in this sense.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and we really need to highlight all the time that this should be a multi stakeholder. We should, not really interfere in this sense. So that's another. That's another layer where we can be very cautious about who we bring.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Okay? So I think these are quite some good ideas just to share the regional perspective. It's not that Eurodic has not to struggle with funds. Indeed, we have, and we all know that in Europe at the moment it's in particular a big challenge. Prices are skyrocketing and donations are going down because Europe has some challenges to deal with at the moment where a lot of money has to go into it.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: We found over the past years after the pandemic, that cooperating with universities is a really good thing. You save a lot on the venue cost, because everything is there. Everything is built in the technical infrastructure. For instance, it's much cheaper than renting a conference centre and going there and putting everything there. So this is really an advice I can wholeheartly give to everyone. Go to universities.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: because also there you have the opportunity to connect with the next generation more easily. That's also a big advantage.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And then, of course, the technical community in particular, the European CCTS are really the biggest donor to our regional I-g-f-f-, and I would really really thank for them, because without them Eurodic wouldn't exist. Eurodig- could not continue. They are really giving the biggest portion of of funds. I would wish that we had more governmental support. We have only<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in our case, from a regional Igf 2 governments which are even not EU, but Europe, which is the UK. And which is Switzerland. And since we are not asking for big money, but for little money, 10,000 €20,000 that would be more than enough.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and I think this is some almost every government could afford, and this would actually save us and also save the national Igfs to to move forward. We will discuss later the importance of national Igfs, also within the framework of the global processes, Gdc. Etc. But since I mentioned governments already, can I ask you how easy or how difficult was it for you to engage with the governments? Are you already in good contact with them?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Is this rather a challenge? What is the situation in your Nris?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So we had a pre-existing relationship with the main Government Department, for like communications in Ireland, we already had a multi-stakeholder policy advisory committee for.ie. That the Government kind of sits on in a non-voting yeah, in an ex officio role, I suppose?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So yeah, we already had, like, very good communication and relationship. So the main contact, I suppose, when I reached out to them with this idea they were very enthusiastic about it, and there was just<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: immediate buy-in on their part, and they immediately offered their support to help set it up. So that was<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: very like positive for us, because my understanding is that's not always the relationship that other Igfs have with their government. So yeah, I feel very fortunate that we already had that very positive relationship with them.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And how is it in Czech Republic.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Well, it's still, I would say, in progress. So we have a few individual people from the various ministries that said that they really are our fans, and they would like to engage with us more. And but it's not just up to them. So there are still some barriers and challenges to this challenges to discuss further. But I I would say that this is like a 1st step, and we are still trying to reach out to multiple people. We also have a new ministry on the<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: let's say digitalisation of the country, and they're also very much keen to cooperate. But the discussions tend to be postponed and postponed. But you know how it is. People get to be very busy, but I think that with every other month it's getting better and better, but it's still something in progress. But we're trying to tell them, hey, we're here. We're also attending very important events, such as I was, part of the net.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Sao Paul in Brazil, and I was the only person from Czech Republic, and I guess that no one really knows, and the question is, if they ever cared, and they should definitely do<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: so. This is something again, with the education we're really telling them how important this is, and they should really contact with us, be in contact with us incorporate. So I just really hope that in near future this will get even better and better.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Okay, I know we have some governmental representatives in the room, and Nigel, for instance, is prepared to share his experience from a governmental point of view. Why, it is sometimes challenging for governments to engage.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and I also know there are others. So I would encourage everyone to speak up who can bring something into this perspective. What are the challenges for the governmental side. And what can Nris do in order to make it easier for them to engage and to participate? Nigel? Where's the mic? Okay?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Oh, glad no one through it.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: yes, thank you, Nigel Hixon here again, so<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I wouldn't pretend there's a magic solution to involving governments and<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: having talked to people about forming<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: national and youth. Igf, since 2,008, or whatever onwards<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I know it can be a challenge<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in Europe. It shouldn't be such a challenge as it is in some parts of the world. In in some parts of the world<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the governments are, I wouldn't say hostile. That might be the wrong word. But governments often in some cases don't believe that civil society or business or academia really has a role in in these issues. So it's quite difficult, from a philosophical point of view, or cultural or political point of view, to sort of work with<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: stakeholders in forming national igx. But we've seen it happen in many different countries, where, thanks to the tenacity and ambition and enthusiasm of civil society and the technical community and business, they've overcome these difficulties.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I would say in Europe. It's a case. And Declan mentioned this of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: going to see the government, you know, quite early in the day and discussing what you're you're planning to do now.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: you know, it's not easy. The government's got lots and lots of priorities, and etc. Etc. But<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: generally, you know, a civil servant should give you, you know, 20 min of their time. I try about half an hour, because I talk too much, but you know, civil servants, we're here to serve.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: not just the government in our countries, but we're here to, you know. Ensure that government policies are carried out throughout the the country.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and if the government believes, if the government believes in anything, it should believe in in working with stakeholders in the in the community to further objectives, such as an open Internet, etc.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So go and see the government. Tell them what your your plans are. Don't go along and say we need this amount of money on the table, but go along. Tell them the plans give them. You know the the rough estimates, for<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: when the event's going to take place, how much it's going to cost. Governments might be in a position to know people that might be able to fund you. They'll they'll obviously be able to refer you to particular sort of sources of funding, such as the national country code. But you might have approached those already.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and, you know, try and get someone from government to come along. Don't just, you know, don't go along to government and say, these are our plans. You know. It's a stakeholder event. We're gonna have debates on how dreadful the government policy on X's. So if you wanna come along, please do no go to the government and say, These are our plans. These are the rough topics we're hoping to do. We'd love to have a government speaker<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: if a minister was available that would be fantastic, but would love to have someone there. There'll be a drink afterwards. You always have to say to governments, there'll be a drink afterwards, because that's always that's always necessary. Yeah, so be very open, and and try and involve the Government in your<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in your planning. Don't assume that the Government will take on a planning role themselves, but, you know, invite them along. If they want to come to the planning committees or to the steering committee, or<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: have you ever you have, and form that<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: collaborative relationship. And yeah.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: thanks<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: wonderful, Martha, before I give it to you, I give it to Bernadette, which is almost in the same row. And then, Martha.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you very much. Good morning. My name is Bernadette Louisianan. I'm the Secretary General of the Commonwealth Telecommunications organization.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and one of the things I'm speaking from the point of view of developing countries and small island developing states.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the resources, the human resources are limited. So you may have a particular minister responsible for roads and maintenance and health.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: it could be as many as 13 different portfolios, and when you look at his staff you may have 6 people that cannot work. So one of the things. So they're always very busy.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: When we started Internet governance in the Caribbean<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: things, it was a very difficult start, very difficult to get things moving.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: But then what we started doing was having special Fora<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: ministers<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: where we explained the Internet, its resources. It's in the the technology<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in the context of what is important to administer<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and what is important to administer. He wants to get reelected the next time.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Yeah, yes. So you have to know what buttons to push<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: what is of interest<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and explain the the the ecosystem, and what needs to happen in the context of what is important to ministers.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and we had our 1st ministerial outreach a few years after we established the Internet Governance Forum and the ministers were there.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and when they we explained the value of the cctld, and whatever it was we explained it. They were sold.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So that was very important, and you started seeing them coming to more and more of our activities. I think the fact and that sort of outreach. It has to be very carefully construed and delivered, so that you really hook the ministers. Unfortunately.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: there could be a high turnover of the ministers. So this is not a 1 and done thing. You have to keep that programme of ministerial engagement going. We have had, as I think, the gentleman from Sweden. I think he mentioned a lot of support from Isol<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and organizations, and in selling the importance, the value you really, it's not a 1 1 message for everybody. You have to tailor the message, so it hits the sweet spot in every agency that you engage with.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: One of the things we did was we held the Internet governance forum<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in association with other significant ICT events. Yeah. So it was never the Igf. By itself. It was always held with something that you knew. It was going to bring a lot of people, and they stay on, so that certainly helps, and you'd be surprised at where support could come from. Yes, every little bit counts. I remember we had an engagement and a local bakery<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: sponsored because we took the time to explain to them why this is important, and so on and so forth, and you know they just bought into it. But the message is important. As I said, it's not a 1 message for everybody. You have to craft that message in a way that grabs the attention and the interest of the audience.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I think. And we worked. We've got we. We had a lot of funding from the the rirrs in the in the region. I thought even Google, you know, because<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: all of these things are very closely interrelated. But it's how you pitch it.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Yes, that's important. So the engaging. The government may be challenging, but it's an ongoing process. It's not a 1 and done<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: keep hitting keeps pushing a follow-up question actually, to your ministerial program.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Do you find like, it's very interesting to me. Do you find that you're seeing like an actual like<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: impact like, are you finding that policy makers are perhaps more literate in Internet governance. And is that like reflecting? Yet at all in like legislation or policy, it's definitely happening. But, as I said, you have to keep at it consistently adjusting the message as the technology evolves. Yeah. So I was at the Ican meeting<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: was that last week. I'm losing track, and they had a high level government<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: meeting.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and the the response was quite incredible. And speaking. There were a number of governments<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: from the developing world from the Caribbean who were away, having gone through that sort of discussion with the Caribbean Internet Governance Forum, with their present asking questions prepared to make adjustments to the legislation so that it goes forward. I think more and more. The governments are seeing the importance<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: importance of the Internet, especially when you're talking about digital transformation. So that is the buzzword, I suppose. Now, that is how you pitch<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: your message. The fact that the Internet is an essential part of that digital transformation ecosystem. Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I see you<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: amazing being speaking with a box. Ok, so first, st congratulations for your initiatives and all the success. And if I can say it. Be brave.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and let your voice be heard in your country. So that's the 1st step. If I can share my experience. Well, first, st<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: my name is Marta Diaz, and I'm from Pt. The Portuguese Cctld, and we are one of the Portuguese organizers of our national initiative. So we do have an experience of more than 10 years organizing the national initiative, and since the beginning it was very difficult to engage with our Government.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: It was difficult, not only because<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: when we approached them, the the 1st thing that we want together was, of course, having some financial support. It's the same problem around all the Nris, of course, and well, they did say, no, we are not. We don't have funds to give you, so we cannot help with funds.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: But more than that we want to approach them in order to get them involved mostly with the technical community, with the civil society. And 1st they said, Well, that kind of themes are not so interested in the top of our agenda. We do have other priorities, but since<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: 2010 we have been increasing all the regulations with our government.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And nowadays we do have the cyber security authority involved. The national communication authority involved. People from the Ministry of Science and Technology, and our next initiative will be in November, and we do know that we do have other departments mainly involved with the digital issues in the country that want to gather the initiative. So it's, of course, an ongoing process.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and we need to approach our governments saying to them to them that our outcomes will be valuable. So it's mandatory to show them that we can do something that the multi stakeholder model functioning. It's important to them and to us. So it's like a win win<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: a relationship. So in my perspective, it is very important to have the government involved. But of course it is an ongoing process.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and all the success for you guys.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you, Marta. Now you have to be really brave and throw the box to the gentleman in the back. I can try to do it. Come on, are you ready for it?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Is there a 1 on my computer?<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: We have to practice a bit with this thing. Thank you. I think we are here both in the spoke class, too.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: First.st My name is Chen Zhongsu, from Ncc. Taiwan White, Ncc.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Communication Commission, the regulator of Taiwan.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Here I have 2<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: to side our opinion about today's topic. First, st<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: regarding the funding about the activity you want to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: developer.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I think the icons system is one solution.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: just as the ladies say in Taiwan we have one example, that if one group or a society group wants to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: want to hold some.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: some meeting about this topic.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: We can suggest that that<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: get contact with the country code registry because they have many programs regarding the reach out<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: policy about the Ican. So it's 1 of the solution you can, you can choice.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: My second part of opinion is that<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I think they, the participant in this audience<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: among them the government participate is minority, but we are just the one<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: representative of government. In fact, in Taiwan. Next year we will hold a Pgif Asia Pacific gif, so we want everybody here can attend our Apgi next year. So it's a win-win solution<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: fall<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: non-government, and the government to to but<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: to approach it. This topic. Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you very much. There are 2 more hands raised behind you, and then ur you pass it behind you, and then I would like to finish this segment, because there's 1 more segment to come, and also hopefully, Cheng and I will arrive. He's not here in the room yet. No, but Udu, you have the floor, thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Uri Lanzipura, from Finland.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Good morning. Our Igf Finnish Igf, or, as we call it, Finnish Internet Forum was started 2,010,<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and it had a relevance actually, where in Vilnews now, it was started when, after the Igf had been in Vilnews, and we got actually some of the Igf luminaries to attend the 1st<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: 1st finish Internet Forum when they were on their way back from the Vilnius Igf. Anyway. What I wanted to say about the theme is that we talk about reaching out to governments. But don't forget parliaments.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Parliaments are actually they legislate<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: about these things we care about.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and in our case we managed to develop the Finnish itf as a sort of partnership or joint venture with a couple of committees of the Parliament, the Committee, of course, the transport and Communication, but even more important, there happens to be a committee for the future<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in the finished Parliament, and I know that in some parliaments in the world there are similar committees which are actually like internal, think tanks for the Parliament.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and not so much charged with the day to day legislation. But anyway, this<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: enables, I mean, when when you have the committee Parliamentary Committee as a co organiser, that guarantees that you have people there from the Parliament and from their staff.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Holy shit.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And also it's a wonderful opportunity for other stakeholders to actually put their point directly to the Parliamentarians.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Hi, thank you. Ricardo Dorani. Here I'd like to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: make a couple of points and share also my experience. I participate in Italy in the Igff, and also the youth Igf.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: What we found very useful in terms of support was not just sponsorship and money, which, of course, gives you a lot more autonomy, but also in kind donations. For several years, when we did online events during Covid Icann was providing us with basically free access to the advanced versions of Zoom, and that saved us a lot of costs, and allowed this infrastructure to run our event.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: On the other hand, what we are still struggling with is<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: generational change, as in when you set up a youth initiative. For example, the time people can spend and dedicate to the initiative changes from year to year, because maybe one year you're a student. Next year you're a walker in some big multination, and you don't have all the spare time you had the previous year, and it's difficult to find new people<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: coming on board. So I was wondering if in your initiatives you guys had to struggle with this kind of either generational change or change in participation that went up and down from one year to the next.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And the other point is that it was just a suggestion to look for in kind donations in that sense. Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Ball anyone.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you very much, Ricardo. It should go back to the front now, because for the last segment, I'm very happy that we have Marca well in the room. Marca well is sharing<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the Eurodic consultation processes on digital cooperation. It started back in 2,019 when the high level panel on Digital Corporation was founded. And from that day, actually, Yerode was monitoring very closely this process<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: that led, of course, also to participation in the global digital compact processes. And the questions that we have formulated in our session outline are basically on top of the agenda of the Gdc. Process. And Mark can give us an update on, on where they are and what kind of role, an arise play into the strategic thinking of the Gdc. Mark, please.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Yes, thank you. Thank you, Sandra. Good morning, everybody.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I'm a former Uk Government official. I'm now a free agent, and I've just quickly on Government participation.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: As a government policymaker I was a member of the steering committee of the U. Kitf, and that provided the tangible link<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: to ministers, because I was advising ministers and the policymaking teams, for example, on online safety<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: when ministers were thinking they wanted to introduce legislation on that.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: We used the yeah. Uk Igf as a channel really to explain what the Government's thinking was and the direction of its policy to intervene in the whole area of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: content regulation.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So that's a way of engaging governments. I just cite that as an example. Now.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: with regard to the Gdc. As Sandra explained, I have been following this on behalf of the whole Gdc. Process.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: going right back really to 2,019, when there was this high level panel on digital cooperation.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and that eventually led to Secretary General of the UN.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Producing report, a common agenda which set out the intention to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: formulate<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the global digital compact. And what the aim of that was to improve digital corporation.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: to accelerate sustainable development through digital and so on.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So it was important, we felt, within the uid community to track what was going on<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: to cascade to stakeholders<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the direction of the UN. In that whole area<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: at a time of great<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: evolving complexity, of governance initiatives<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: relating to digital policy and Internet governance.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So it was important for us to provide that opportunity for stakeholders to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: react to express their views. What was happening in the UN.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And to take part in the consultations and to respond as a European community of stakeholders to those processes. So that's what<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I've been doing on behalf of Eurodig. And we've had webinars, and<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: we've consulted on specific proposals.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And I've represented Yodig in the recent consultations over the last year or so by the cofacilitators<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the UN. And New York, the ambassadors for Sweden and Zambia.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: on the evolving text of the compact.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and it was clear from the 1st draft that there was no recognition at all of what was happening at the national and regional level<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in terms of multi-stakeholder process, the the Nri's.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: which is now what is it? About? 170 initiatives.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the 0 draft, the 1st text to come out of New York<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: simply referred to the Igf.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And it was clear that they needed<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: their eyes opening to the fact that in the wake of the Igf.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Being set up back in 2,006 following the<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: June. This<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: summit of the wishes there has been this proliferation of national and regional Igf, and indeed the Uk Igf is one of the we claim it was the 1st actually<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and well, friends can test that. But we we feel it first.st I've I've had that argument so many times, anyway.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: so I said to you know there was a consultation with stakeholders. The Gdc. Is is primarily a multilateral intergovernmental process. But they have been holding consultations<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: with non government stakeholders. And I spoke about this. I said.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: don't forget<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: that there are these national and regional ideas<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: who want to be participating in the whole Ddc. Process.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And there's no acknowledgement of that in any of the<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Gdc. Text, and no reference to that in any of the discussions in New York.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So I'm glad to say, the second version of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the text of the global digital compact does refer to the Igf and its national and regional networks, ie. The Nri's.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So we've got recognition there of of the Nri's.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and I hope all of the Nris will seize the opportunity really to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: engage in further consultations<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: which are now, in their final phase, before the summit of the future. In September there's a new<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: draft expected later this week, the 3rd draft of the Global Digital Compact. And there will be the opportunity for stakeholders to<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: comment on that on Friday, you could. If you go to the global digital compact<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: website, you can get the link to register, to speak and to participate in the Friday session for non-government stakeholders.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And of course it doesn't stop in September of the summit. There is the implementation phase, the follow up, and there's a lot of<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: proposals<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in the<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: text of the compact<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: for various UN entities to have a role and also the wishes Forum and the global Igf. But of course, again.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I would strongly argue that the national and regional idfs also have<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: a place in the follow up, so we should be looking out for opportunities to explain that, and then to consult through your national initiatives and through Unic.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: what it is<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: that we can do as communities of stakeholders through our multistake stakeholder fora, to engage in the follow up to the compact. So that's basically where we are.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: We'll hear a bit more about this<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: later. This morning when we have the session on global processes<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: here in the auditorium<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: at 1130 onwards.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: So that's where we are, anyway. Who should I throw this to? Now? Keep it for the moment, please, but thank you very much, not only for sharing this process also for giving this update, and, as Nigel sorry, Mark said.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: there will be a ongoing discussion in the next session, and then also in the business consultation. And even the opening plenary will deal with the global digital processes that are underway at the moment. So if you're interested in that, the main auditorium is your place for today.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I have seen Sheng and Tie has arrived meanwhile, and also Anya is following us online. So Schengenai, I would like to ask you to come down to the stage already. But I would not miss that opportunity to also welcome Anya and ask her to say a few words to the Nris before Chengtai gives the update on the global itf that is currently prepared.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Anya is the lady who is herding the cats of Nri on a global level? That's really a challenging job. And I must admire how well you are doing this. So, Anya, please say a few words.<br />
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| Anja Gengo: Thank you very much, Sandra, and good morning to everyone from Geneva. I am sorry that I can't be with you in person, just because I know how Eurodig is also a lot of fun, you know, in the margins of the meeting, in addition to these valuable discussions. But I'm very grateful as I'm sure everyone to be able to participate online as equal and to learn from all of you, I wanna thank all the colleagues<br />
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| Anja Gengo: for wonderful inputs and sharing knowledge. So far, it's always such a learning opportunity from working with the Nris and Eurodiges Assembly is<br />
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| Anja Gengo: one really special form of ways of engaging with the Nris. It was so wonderful to hear from colleagues who are not coming from the region<br />
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| Anja Gengo: per se, such as, for example, colleagues from the Apr. Igf community or colleagues from the Caribbean Igf, I see online colleagues from Japan, for example, a number of colleagues coming from the African community. So I think that's such an additional layer of value for the Nris that we are supporting each others, and the fact that we are holding national or regional<br />
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| Anja Gengo: Igf processes does not mean working in silo, just specifically with the community from the region, but also working internationally and globally. I'm glad Changetai made it from the other session, so I will not be speaking about the riad session, and I will be very brief just to say<br />
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| Anja Gengo: 2 3 lines about the value of the Nris work this year. As you know, we started ambitiously this year in January, with bottom up consultations to understand what the network collectively wishes to achieve.<br />
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| Anja Gengo: and we are already halfway through with working on a couple of objectives of the networks interest, which is, for example, to prepare the enterprise main session for the Igf in Riyad focused on the evolution of the multi stakeholder model in light of all these important processes that are, as as he call himself free agent.<br />
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| Anja Gengo: Mark just nicely explained.<br />
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| Anja Gengo: There are also 3 other collaborative sessions which are thematic tackling issues which are of global importance, such as disinformation, digital inclusion, artificial intelligence. And of course we'll have a session which is something like this assembly<br />
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| Anja Gengo: similar related to the Nris coordination session, where we will be learning about the sustainability of the network. And also, what is our journey post 2025 after the business plus 20 review. And of course, after all these decisions that hopefully will be positive for the Nris emerging from the September consultations and negotiations on the global digital company.<br />
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| Anja Gengo: So with that. Thank you very much once again, and back to you, Sandra, and check it out.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you very much, Anya, and thank you for joining us. You are perfectly visible here on the big screen. It's quite of impressive. So without further ado, Cheng, and you have the last word over to you. Thank you very much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you very much, Sandra, for inviting me, and I so sorry that I couldn't be here for the whole session? I had another competing session, but I will be here for other Nri and youth sessions, and also thank you to Anya. She is the true force at the Secretariat behind the Nri network.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And also, if you wrote these points that I'm about to say so. Thank you<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: so, and thank you for giving me this opportunity. As Carol the Mag Chair said, the importance of the Nri<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: for a strong and inclusive global Internet governance ecosystem cannot be overstated.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Continuous growth of the nri, both in quality and quantity, is one of the greatest indicators of success of the Idf model and good digital governance and its sustainability. And I'll also like to commend the Eurodig. It is really one of the examples that we do give to people when they want to start. An Nri or a re-regional is really great work, Sandra, you've been doing a really great job. Thank you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I thank the Nris in the network for working collectively on enriching the Idf program through your sessions, you bring local specificities, critical for good understanding of global digital governance. I am sure the 5 sessions you are preparing for the upcoming 19th annual Igf meeting in Riyadh will confirm this as well. The issue you adopted for this year cannot be<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: important, the governance of new and emerging tech digital inclusion and miss<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: and disinformation<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in addition, your main sessions reflects one of the most important processes. The global community has been focused on<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: the evolution of the multi-stakeholder model in light of the whistus plus 20 review and the implications of the global digital compact.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: I invite you to continue supporting the Idf. Starting from actively participating in the 19th annual Igf meeting in Riyad from the 15th to the 19th of December, 2,024. A lot of work is waiting for us in Riyadh, developing around to the overarching theme, building our multi-stakeholder digital future.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: The main program themes are<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: harnessing innovation and balancing risks in the digital space.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: enhancing the digital contribution to peace development and sustainability.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: advancing human rights and inclusion in the digital age.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: And the final one is improving digital governance for the Internet. We want.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: in addition to riyadh preparations, the intercessional work has been developing. Well, thanks to the work of many of you.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: this includes a work of over 30 dynamic coalitions, best practice forums on cybersecurity and policy networks on Internet fragmentation, meaningful access and Internet fragmentation.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: There is ongoing strategic work on developing capacity for and with legislators and the judiciary as well as work with youth to understand how they use generative AI, which is a very big topic this year, and last year as well where they see the gaps, and how these could be closed<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: later. Today we are launching the youth track with the very 1st capacity development workshop focus on AI generated political deep fakes. Here at Eurodig<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: at 2 30, in workshop Room one, which is upstairs. I found out that this morning when what's going around, and I hope you can join us.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you, and I look forward to connecting with you all over the next 3 days. Yes, I'll be around here. Please feel free to approach me. We can discuss anything you would like about Internet governance and beyond. So thank you very much. Thank you so much.<br />
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| Host, EuroDIG 2024, Auditorium: Thank you very much. Sang. And I thank you all for your active participation. It was my pleasure to be your moderator, and I'm looking forward to the rest of the 3 days.<br />
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